First Things First is the weekly podcast where we talk about God, faith and life in Shallowater, TX. Pastor Brad Miles welcomes a new guest each week from our church, from our community, from around the world and we talk about things that really matter to us in our church and in our town. 

Listen today and view each of our featured guests below!




  • Gary Eastwood

    Anyone who finds themselves in the midst of a struggle will really be encouraged by this conversation with Gary Eastwood. He talks about raising a family, starting a business, learning to manage finances and dealing with crazy rodents in the middle of the night. He also talks about his relationship with his mom, growing up without a dad, dealing with hurt, walking through struggle and finding the faithfulness of God in the middle of it all.

  • Justin Bloss

    This week we welcome Justin Bloss who will be speaking at DNOW February 24 and 25. He talks about tennis, about small towns, about good friends and about starting a family. He also shares about turning to Christ, about struggling with addiction and about the transforming love of Jesus.

  • Carsen Miles

    Carsen Miles talks about finding peace in the presence of Christ, about learning to receive God's love, and about trusting that God has everything under control. She shares her experiences growing up as a minister's kid, dealing with a life-altering illness, struggling through identity issues and learning to rest in the love of Christ.

    Check out Brave Enough to be Broken by Toni Collier. Carsen recommended this book in the podcast. She also suggested Uninvited: Living Loved When You Feel Less Than, Left Out and Lonely by Lysa TerKeurst. Winning the War on Worry is a companion book to Don't Give the Enemy a Seat at Your Table both by Louie Giglio. Register for our women's bible study on Wednesday nights starting 1/11/2023 over The Cost of Control by Shannon Hodde Miller

    2 Corinthians 12:9 Each time he said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me.

  • Swade and Krystal Moyers

    Swade and Krystal Moyers join the podcast to talk about minivans, raising kids, teenage romance, and foster/adoption. They also talk about the amazing ways that God has blessed their family, the hope they have in the hard times and what it means to simply obey God.

  • Kim Sanders

    This week we have an awesome conversation with Kim Sanders about foster parenting, about adoption, but also about boldly obeying God and surrendering to His will. We also talk about the joys and challenges that life often throws at us, as well as walking through sorrow and grief with our family. You are going to love this!

    Want to know more about how you can get involved in caring for abused and/or neglected children? Here are some really great options for everyone!

    Want to know more about foster parenting and/or adoption? Check out our ministry partners, Texas Girls and Boys Ranch and Buckner!

  • Carrie Williams

    Carrie Williams talks about how God called her and her family to be a foster family, how He moved in them as they welcomed children into their home, how He eventually led them to adopt and what their family has learned on this amazing journey. You are going to be inspired by hearing what God has done in the Williams family!

    Interested in foster care and/or adoption? Check out our ministry partners, Texas Girls and Boys Ranch and Buckner.

    Looking for other ways to fulfill the scriptural mandate that we have to care for orphans? Start here.

  • Kaegan Holder

    What a privilege to hear from Kaegan Holder! She talks about being a mom, teaching school, figuring out a career path and the key to healthy dating. She also talks about the faithfulness of God, the fierce love of a mother, letting our past be the launching pad for ministry and stepping out in faith to be the hands of feet of Christ for someone else. Kaegan's story is so encouraging! Listen and share!

    If you would like more information on the ministry that Kaegan has started with her mom, check out The Mercy Movement.

  • Brice Foster

    This week we talk to Brice Foster about youth sports and raising kids. We also talk about mission, about growing in Christ, and about finding healthy accountability and community.

  • Tony Cotten

    It's amazing how experiences in our lives and how important relationships can shape our perspective. The influence that Godly parents can have on our lives is really profound. This week on the podcast Tony Cotten describes how the example of faithfulness his parents set for him profoundly shaped his outlook on life. We talk about plumbers, motorcycles, Santa Claus and small churches. We also talk about ministry, adversity, terminal illness and the steadfast love of God. Don't miss Tony's amazing story!

  • Danielle Rendon

    So many of us know how it feels to face rejection, abandonment. We know how it feels to struggle with anxiety, to question our self-worth and doubt the goodness of God. This week on the podcast we get to talk to Danielle Rendon. We talk about raising boys, White Sands New Mexico, surviving parenthood and sleep deprivation. We also talk about addiction, about abandonment, about fear and about the steadfast mercy of God. Danielle's story is going to encourage you. Check it out now!

    For more information about IF:Gathering click here

  • Kyla Hamilton

    Sometimes God uses really difficult and tragic circumstances to reveal His mercy, and to draw us close to him. This week on the podcast we welcome Kyla Hamilton. We talk about teenagers, farming, Alabama (the band) and cows. We also talk about falling in love, finding Jesus, facing tragedy and raising a family. We had a lot of fun hanging out and you will really enjoy and be encouraged by how God has been at work in Kyla's life.

  • Clinton Lowin

    There are a whole lot of people in the world who have been greatly influenced by the life and ministry of Dr. Clinton Lowin, including many people in Shallowater. Dr. Lowin was interim pastor at First Shallowater, and there are so many people at our church who were blessed by his wisdom, humility and desire to serve. This week we sit down for a conversation with Dr. Clinton Lowin. We talk about volleyball, pizza, Taco Villa, ski trips and growing up in West Texas. We also talk about ministry, about faith, about learning to walk in humility with God, about following God's call on our lives even when that means moving WAY outside of our comfort zone. Dr. Lowin shares some awesome truth with us that will encourage and inspire you.

  • Skylah Hoffman

    Being a mom is tough. Balancing all of the demands of caring for a growing family with the work it takes to build, to maintain, to grow a healthy marriage is not easy. This week on the podcast we welcome Skylah Hoffman. We talk about basketball, young love, raising kids, and West Texas. We also talk about the importance of family, finding purpose and the challenge of connecting with your spouse in the middle of the craziness of raising a family. Skylah has so many encouraging things to share, particularly with young mothers, in this podcast episode. Take a listen, and share it with someone you know.

    You can find out more about Jennie Allen and her new book, Find Your People, by clicking here.

    Want to know more about IF:Gathering? Click here.

  • Ann Marie Molina

    Since we've been talking about commitments we make that help to insure successful, healthy marriages, this conversation with Ann Marie is timed perfectly. We talk about growing up in a small town, raising boys, and type 1 diabetes. We also talk about facing adversity in our marriages, learning to place our trust in God and figuring out how to love others selflessly, like Jesus. You are going to really appreciate Ann Marie's openness, her sincere faith and her love for her family.

  • Maddox Phillips

    To say that Maddox Phillips is "relentlessly positive" may actually be a bit of an understatement. When you hang out with Maddox, you can't help but be impressed by his optimism, his care for others, his outlook even in the face of adversity. Of course, it's not easy for him, or anyone really, to maintain that, especially when life gets particularly tough or when people are particularly mean. This conversation with Maddox is so encouraging, though, because he steadfastly chooses to believe the best about others, and because steadfastly refuses to allow challenges to slow him down. In our conversation we talk about youth camp, friendship, school and football. We also talk about overcoming challenges, recovering from injury, growing closer to God and responding in love when people say mean things. There's something for everyone in this episode, and Maddox is a truly special young man.

  • Ernest Hopkins

    Every now and then, you meet someone, and as soon as you meet them, you know that you are going to be friends. Ernest Hopkins is one of those people. Everyone who meets him feels like they are his best friend. He has a unique talent for making people feel accepted, seen, loved. During the five years that he served as Associate Pastor at First Shallowater, he made a huge impact on the lives of a lot of people, and he and his family are remembered fondly for their time here. Ernest joins the podcast this week and we talk about family, military service, grandkids and the joys of ministry. We also talk about grief, loss, race, and God's guidance and provision. If you know Ernest Hopkins, you love him. If you don't know him, you are going to love this episode and, I promise, by the end of it, you will love him too.

  • Rodney Vincent

    There are people in our lives who profoundly change our course because of their faithfulness, their compassion and their sincere commitment to Christ. Rodney Vincent is now, and has been for a long time, one of those people for a lot of folks. During his 20+ years of coaching, Rodney has influenced countless young people to work hard, dream big, be team players, and to follow Christ. On this episode, though, he talks about the people in his life who did that for him. You are going to love hearing these stories and getting to know Coach Vincent a little bit better.

  • Kerry Sarchet

    Only a really special person would choose to spend the bulk of their career working with middle school students. Kerry Sarchet is one of those people. We talk about sports, kids, family, band, E-Harmony and small town America. We also talk about loss, grief, parenting, and the steadfast love of God. Check out Kerry's encouraging story.

  • Charity Sparks

    Have you ever felt like life pulled the rug out from under you; like in a single, gut wrenching moment everything changed? How do we respond in those moments, and how do we walk through the aftermath. This week on the podcast Charity Sparks joins us. We talk about the Lone Star State, yo yos, magicians, big moves and new places. We also talk about trusting God, depression, suicide, family and the hope and peace that can only be found in the presence of God. You are going to be encouraged by Charity's story.

    Discerning the Voice of God by Priscilla Shirer

  • DNeise Laverty

    Sometimes, when we are going through really hard things, it's difficult for us to imagine how God might be at work. It's only when we look back at our experiences that we see evidence of his handiwork. This week, we welcome DNeise Laverty to the podcast. We talk about Hallmark movies, small towns, West Texas people, and great churches. We also talk about abandonment, addiction, losing a loved one and the relentless grace of God. You are going to love hearing from DNeise.

  • Cayenne Williams

    This week on the podcast we sit down with Cayenne Williams for a conversation about family, college life, friendships, youth group and dating. We also talk about faith, purpose, foster care and adoption. If you ever worry about the future of our world as today's young people move into positions of leadership, then you need to listen to this episode. Cayenne is a great example of a young person with a desire to serve others, to be used by God to make a difference in the world. Grab your favorite teenager and listen together!

    Cayenne mentioned Amarillo Angels. Make sure you check out their website to discover more ways to help foster families in our area.

    Also, our church works really closely with Texas Girls and Boys Ranch. Check out their volunteer opportunities.

    Want to email Cayenne? Here's her address:

  • Deanna Harville

    When we are facing something really big and scary, our faith can be what sustains us. Hearing from people who have walked through those situations, who are positive and centered in spite of everything, can be really helpful. That is who Deanna Harville is. This week on the podcast, Deanna and I talk about homemade ice cream, second chances, cancer, faith and the difference that the love of a good husband can make. Tune in and keep the Kleenex handy! You're going to love hearing what Deanna has to share!

  • Dora Potter

    Sometimes, in our lives, we run up against obstacles. The obstacles can seem really big, insurmountable even. With Christ, though, we are able to move through, and even grow stronger from the obstacles that we find in our path. This week, our guest on the podcast is Dora Potter. We talk about "hayseed," working with students, living in Hawaii and growing up on a farm. We also talk about raising children, blended families, losing loved ones and learning to trust Christ through it all. You'll love hearing the wisdom that Dora has to share.

  • Kade Smith and Sam Thomas

    As we get ready to celebrate our graduating Seniors in a little over a week, First Things First welcomes two of our seniors to the podcast. Kade Smith and Samantha Thomas drop in, and we talk about youth group, school trips, mentors and growing up. We also talk about finding faith, learning to serve God and figuring out the future. So excited about what God is doing in the lives of these two young people! you will be too!

  • Alana Hayes

    Being a mom is really rewarding, really exciting, but also really hard. With Mother's Day coming up, we decided to an air an episode we recorded back in March with our friend Alana Hayes. We talk about dancing, pick up lines, marriage, morning sickness, growing up in church, farming and health inspectors. We also talk about mission, about calling, about the leadership of the Holy Spirit, about grief and loss and about living out Christ-life. You will be inspired and encouraged to hear Alana's story.

    Alana's started a company, Against the Grain, to raise money for an orphanage in Nepal. Check our their stuff! You can also go to that website for tickets to A Night for Nepal.

    The book, When Helping Hurts, was really impactful to Alana and she mentions it on the podcast.

  • Brad & Michael Q&A

    Faith and life can be really confusing and we often have questions. That's especially true if you are a teenager. At our recent DNow event for our youth ministry, small groups were asked to write down questions that they had about God, faith, the Bible, life. We got LOTS of questions! We hosted a panel Q&A during DNow, but we weren't able to get to nearly all of the questions. So, we decided we'd answer a few more on the podcast this week! Our pastor, Brad Miles, and youth minister, Michael Corallo, answer some really insightful questions from some amazing students on this week's episode. Make sure you listen! They might even talk about a question that you have had!

  • Joe Longway

    Sometimes life really wrenches us in a new direction. We didn't ask for it, certainly didn't see it coming, but we are faced with figuring out how to navigate it. This week on the podcast we get to sit down with Joe Longway. We talk about law enforcement, about the Walk to Emmaus movement, about heartbreak, divorce and seeking God when we feel lost.

  • Brittany Brewer

    This week on the podcast we welcome our first celebrity guest! Lady Raider Basketball legend, Brittany Brewer, join us. We talk about basketball, family, European culture, accidental memes and what its like to be a professional athlete. We also talk about toxic work environments, anxiety, fear, cancer, grief and loss. Hear Brittany share about how her faith has grown and strengthened her through it all.

    Brittany recommends these books for those who are dealing with grief: Suffering Is Never for Nothing and The Hiding Place We also recommend One Thousand Gifts: A Dare to Live Fully Right Where You Are

  • Jason Fisher

    This week on the podcast we get to sit down with Jason Fisher. Jason is President at Wyllie Manufacturing. He's also a husband, a father and a faithful servant at First Shallowater. We talk about teenagers, truck accessories, theology and our awesome wives. We also talk about divorce, about deliverance, about what we often deal with as children in our families, and about how the grace of God finds us in the midst of it all.

  • Erin Lass

    Trauma, and specifically abuse, are things that we don’t often talk about in church, but the truth is that many of us have experienced it. As a follow-up to the message on April 3, 2022, Erin Lass joins the podcast to talk about the effects that trauma can have on us as well as some practical ways to begin to move toward healing. Erin is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a thriving practice, Waypoints Counseling, in Plainview, TX. If you have ever been abused, or experienced any kind of trauma, you're going to want to listen to this episode. If you haven't, the odds are that you know someone who has, or who is walking through that trauma right now. This episode has some really great advice for helping folks who are dealing with the fallout from trauma.

    For more information about First Shallowater, visit our website.

    Can we pray for you? Send us your prayer requests.

  • Angie Smith

    Building a big life in a small town is rewarding, enriching and really difficult. This week on the podcast we sit down with Angie Smith and we talk about Friday night football games, farming and good friends. We also talk about financial hardship, marriage, raising kids and trusting Jesus to guide us through it all. You’ll be encouraged by Angie’s sincere and compassionate heart, as well as by her story of learning to root her life in the truths of scripture even in the midst of uncertainty and change.

  • Jeremy Walker

    There is a huge difference between knowing about someone and actually knowing someone. Especially in this age of social media, it’s increasingly different for us sometimes to distinguish between those two things in our relationships. If we aren’t careful, we can assume that we have a relationship with folks that we actually don’t have. It’s also easy for us to assume that we have a relationship with God that we don’t have. What if we know about Jesus, but we don’t actually know him? This week, Jeremy Walker joins the podcast, and we talk about faith, what it means to have a relationship with God. We also talk about worship, farming, eating gross things, small town living and how to respond when we’ve been hurt by church people. You are going to enjoy getting to know Jeremy a little better.

    Jeremy works at Texas Girls and Boys Ranch. Find out more about this amazing ministry here:

  • Sandy Peters

    When tragedy strikes in sudden, unexpected ways in our lives, we can feel really disoriented, lost even. Those events in our lives threaten to completely derail us. Where is God, who is God when we are facing unimaginable loss. This week, Sandy Peters joins us on the podcast. We talk about family, the difference that an amazing woman can make in our lives, the inestimable value of good friendships and dealing with the loss of a loved one.

  • Anna Jackson

    One moment, one word, one diagnosis can change our lives forever. When a person hears the news that they have a life-altering, life threatening illness, things can get really dark really quick. How can we find the light of hope in the midst of such overwhelming darkness. Anna Jackson knows. This week, we welcome her onto the podcast and we talk about raising kids, the challenges facing educators, secret ways to get onto the roof of the church and cancer. We talk about how God’s mercy can meet us when things feel most hopeless. Don’t miss this episode!

    Get to know more about Anna. Check out her blog!

  • Steve Neiman

    Isn’t it crazy how our lives can be headed in one direction and then, all of a sudden, God can move us in a startling, exciting new direction? This week we talk with Steve Nieman about good friends, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, entrepreneurship and the ways that our spouses sometimes save us from ourselves.

  • Annie Abney

    Sometimes, just when you think things are getting good, life throws you a curveball. Sometimes a LOT of curveballs. How do we respond when hard things, even painful things, pop up in really unexpected places in our lives? This week welcome Annie Abney to the podcast. We talk about dogs, fish, and rap superstars. We also talk about loss, about marriage, about mental health and about God’s grace in the middle of all of it.

  • Roxann St. Clair

    Sometimes, our most painful experiences, our darkest struggles are the things that lead us to Christ. We experience, in real and profound ways, God’s healing in these moments. This week on the podcast, Roxann St. Clair shares the inspiring story of how God showed up in the middle of her struggle and gave her peace, healing and victory. We also talk about being an entrepreneur, and if you’d like some more information about Roxann’s family business, you can go here:


    WARNING: We talk about some serious stuff in our episode this week. If you are a victim of sexual assault and you need counseling or help, here are some resources that may be of help to you:

    National Sexual Assault Hotline



    If you are struggling with an eating disorder, here is a good place to start for information and help: Eating Disorders Helpline | Chat, Call, or Text | NEDA › help-support


    Please feel free to contact the church at 806.832.4511 if you would like recommendations for counselors who deal with some of the issues we deal with in the podcast. Our list will not be exhaustive, but it may be a good place to start.

  • Jackson Abney

    Liminal - Occupying a position at, or on both sides of, a boundary or threshold. This week on the podcast we’re joined by Jackson Abney who talks about, among other things, how God is faithful in the liminal times in our lives -  those times when we know we are at the threshold of change, but we have no idea what is coming. We talk also talk about dogs, rap icons, the lineup for the Super Bowl halftime show. You’ll be encouraged and inspired by Jackson’s story.

  • Joe Kirk Smith

    Be careful when you ask God to clearly reveal his will to you. Sometimes he does it in exactly the way you asked! This week on the podcast, Joe Kirk Smith shares a story about a time when God did just that for him. We talk about what it means to surrender our lives to God completely, how to hear and follow God’s voice, what it takes to have a healthy marriage, and how God rescues us from ourselves sometimes.

    Are you interested in the Marriage Maintenance class that Joe Kirk and his wife Angie lead? Email Ministry Assistant, Annie Abney at and she will get you on the list for the next session!

  • Kristi Barker

    We all have that one friend, that one person who has really made a difference in our lives. This week on the podcast, we talk to Kristi Barker. She shares a powerful story about how God used a precious friend to change the course of her life. Not only her life though, but also the lives of many, many other people. We weren’t able to find the book we mention in the podcast (it’s out of print), but here is a link to Brie Gomez’s blog: